Money and Velocity

jeteye's picture

Almost 9 months ago the government pumped in $757 Billion, that is right Billion, into the economy, but for some reason, they still do not realize that what they did, though noble, was not the most effect way of stimulating the economy. Why? It is because they do not understand the power of money’s momentum. Essentially, the faster money flows, the stronger you economy. Why? Well, as money moves through the system, its “effect” in multiplied by the number of times it exchanges hands. This velocity of money actually makes it seem like there is more money in the system than there actually is, or that the multiplicative effect of the existing money is greater as the velocity increases.

Back in school, I learned a few interesting equations about how velocity effects things. These include momentum, kinetic energy, and finally Einstein’s ...

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http://macromental.blogspot.com/2009/11/money-and-velocity.html

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matt's picture

To preface, (a) I haven't

To preface, (a) I haven't spent to many brain cycles mapping physical equations to our economy, and (b) I'll admit that I haven't studied economics to any significant degree. But that said, I tend to agree that the stimulus poured a ton of money into a huge funnel with a little spout.

From my perception, much of this stimulus did not go to small businesses or to the entrepreneur community. Correct me if I'm wrong. I believe it would have been better spent there. I consider small business as monetary amplifiers, where strategic cash injection creates the velocity you spoke of (they're spending it to build their business), AND the potential for job creation. Blanket targeting the same stimulus on big businesses may have a diluted effect, but admittedly I haven't thought that all the way through.

jeteye's picture

matt, thanks for the reply.

matt, thanks for the reply. I concur with your assessment and that is why I wrote this blog. NOT getting the money to the general population (M1) diluted its effect on the economy. M2 & M2 can never get the velocity of M1. When money exchanges hands often, it actually increases its effect on the economy.

I agree. Just giving money to AIG and the big banks has done little to stimulate the economy, but lots to make those entities a lot of profit. Kind of sucks doesn't it? Tons of people unemployed (including a hell of a lot of high tech people), but the bankers and Wall Street is doing fine.

Jane Prusakova's picture

The government has allocated

The government has allocated all these money for the stimulus programs, but "pumping into economy" largely has not happened yet. According to different reports, 20% to 25% of these money has been spent - and that means just giving the money to the receiving organizations.

It seems to be taking forever to actually get this money (and jobs that this money will pay for) into the economy. Hopefully, the stimulus will trickle down to small businesses some time soon, and make a real difference in the recovery.

Jane Prusakova
Senior Consultant at Improving Enterprises
Door64 blog

matt's picture

I did some brief

I did some brief investigation of stimulus funds available to entities that benefit local economic development in terms of employment (e.g. door64). However, my finding was that funds seem to be micro-allocated into buckets with such specific requirements that door64 fit in precisely none of them.

So yes, we're making a difference, but because we don't fit in their vision of what will be successful, we're out of luck. Frankly this aggravated me...not because we can receive funds for an initiative that is actually working...but simply that the program is so shortsighted.

jeteye's picture

Amazing. I have money for

Amazing. I have money for you but only if you meet x, y, z and 1, 2, 3 criteria?

jeteye's picture

For all the brain power that

For all the brain power that went into trying to figure this thing out, it is amazing that they did NOT understand this relationship between the velocity of M1 and its effect on the economy. Putting money into M2 really did little just because its velocity is rarely greater than 1, and is usually around .02 or less. Yes, lots of money, but little turns. Oh well, live and learn?

sravet's picture

Which is more likely, that

Which is more likely, that lay economists understand the problem better than the leaders at the Fed, or that the Fed simply has a different goal?

regards,
--steve

Jane Prusakova's picture

Economists may understand

Economists may understand the problem, but it's the politicians who make the decisions on who gets the money...

Jane Prusakova
Senior Consultant at Improving Enterprises
Door64 blog

jeteye's picture

I concur!

I concur!

jeteye's picture

The Power is Unfortunately

The Power is Unfortunately NOT with the People!

sravet's picture

The magical money multiplier

The magical money multiplier is a product of John Maynard Keynes and his Keynesian economics. It's still taught but is nonsense. Consider Bastiat's broken window fallacy: A store owner shows up to open his shop only to find someone has broken his window. Passers-by offer condolences, and one says to look at the bright side: The glazier will soon have additional income, some of which he'll spend at the baker, giving additional income to the baker, some of which he'll spend at the bookseller, giving him additional income, and so on.

What this example overlooks is the hidden cost: The suit that the shop owner was planning on buying but which he can't afford now, the tailors lessened income from that. This complete view agrees with the common sense notion that society doesn't get richer when windows are broken, it gets poorer. Yet it never fails that when a natural or other disaster occurs some leading figure will trot out this explanation of how disaster leads to economic growth. Krugman himself said it after the 9/11 attacks:

"Ghastly as it may seem to say this, the terror attack—like the original "day of infamy" which brought an end to the Great Depression—could even do some economic good. [...] the driving force behind the economic slowdown has been a plunge in business investment. Now, all of a sudden, we need some new office buildings. As I've already indicated, the destruction isn't big compared with the economy, but rebuilding will generate at least some increase in business spending."

I guess we should have demolished the WTC (after evacuating it) soon after it was built, and again shortly after each rebuilding.

Government spending, deficits, and in particular fractional reserve banking are the cause of the business cycle, and more fake money cannot fix the problem no matter who gets it or how it is spent. wikipedia has a decent explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_business_cycle_theory.

Finally, although positivism works fine in the physical sciences you can't apply it to people, either individually or in aggregate, because people have free will, can change their mind, and are completely capable of making different decisions over time when presented with the same choices. We can engineer the natural world but we absolutely can't engineer society.

regards,
--steve

Jane Prusakova's picture

There are several competing

There are several competing theories that offer different explanations for business cycle. Real Business Cycle Theory by the Chicago school of Economics suggests business cycles are a completely normal way for the market economy to be, and are not caused by government regulations or financial policy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Business_Cycle_Theory

The downside of this explanation is, of course, that we can't fix or avoid a recession by making changes in monetary policy.

Jane Prusakova
Senior Consultant at Improving Enterprises
Door64 blog

jeteye's picture

Thanks for the link and

Thanks for the link and comments!

sravet's picture

As a theory it's

As a theory it's unsatisfying because it leaves unanswered important questions. In a capitalist economy, where the successful entrepreneurs are rewarded while the unsuccessful ones go out of business, how do you explain a business cycle that is systemic? It requires that all entrepreneurs, across all industries, were simultaneously wrong, which doesn't seem like a good explanation. And how do you explain the pattern, which is that capital intensive industries are affected more than non capital intensive?

The Austrian theory reaches the same conclusion, that monetary policy can't fix a recession, but gives answers to these questions in addition. All entrepreneurs are misled by the artificially lower interest rates that the Fed creates with their easy money policy, and invest in projects that in the end, won't be supported by consumer demand.

regards,
--steve

jeteye's picture

Actually, many of the most

Actually, many of the most successful start ups started during the last major resession!

Jane Prusakova's picture

In order for a recession to

In order for a recession to happen, all entrepreneurs do not need to be unsuccessful. Rather, during the "down" part of the cycle more businesses enjoy less success, than during the "up" part. There are a lot of companies out there that are doing brisk business (and hiring) this year, but we have a recession because many more companies are suffering and laying people off.

Being capital-intensive means that a business has to invest more and for a longer term, than a less capital-intensive business. When the cycle turns, those companies who have invested with the expectation of high return in the future have to adjust those expectations. The more investment went in prior to the downturn, the higher the sunk cost, and the heavier is the negative effect of the down cycle.

Jane Prusakova
Senior Consultant at Improving Enterprises
Door64 blog

jeteye's picture

Sunk costs are like water

Sunk costs are like water under the bridge. They are gone, so try to maximize your profits going forward without worrying about sunk costs.

Jane Prusakova's picture

The invested capital is the

The invested capital is the sunk cost, and sunk cost is the reason capital-intensive industries are affected more in a recession.

Jane Prusakova
Senior Consultant at Improving Enterprises
Door64 blog

jeteye's picture

Thanks Steve for this

Thanks Steve for this excellent insight. Ironic how something so bad could have a "silver lining" so to speak?

sravet's picture

I'm not sure I would use the

I'm not sure I would use the term silver lining. It's still a lot of broken windows nationwide, and the recession is real pain for a lot of people. However it is important to realize that the bust is necessary. The bust is the economy healing itself, moving capital and labor to things that are real and sustainable. The boom feels good but it's the problem, the bust hurts but it's the healing. Drinking and being hung over are an accurate metaphor.

jeteye's picture

I do not think you have the

I do not think you have the concept of turns of money correctly. Each time money exchanges hands it actually "expands" its value. As an illustration:

If, for example, in a very small economy, a farmer and a mechanic, with just $50 between them, buy goods and services from each other in just three transactions over the course of a year

* Mechanic buys $40 of corn from farmer.
* Farmer spends $50 on tractor repair from mechanic.
* Mechanic spends $10 on barn cats from farmer

then $100 changed hands in course of a year, even though there is only $50 in this little economy. That $100 level is possible because each dollar was spent an average of twice a year, which is to say that the velocity was 2 / yr.

The "effect" of v is actually higher, but you get the point.

I do not know where the broken window theory comes from, but it was not what I was talking about. An economy gets richer when all boats rise, which means that E is larger due in a large part to various parties joining in move "v" higher. Right now, "v" is very low, so the "effective" power of the economy on a personal level is low.

I concur, an economy is not getting richer breaking windows. The driving force of the slowdown is because consumers have stopped spending! Hello M1 and velocity. EVERYTHING else is derived from that one small, silly fact.

sravet's picture

Jeteye, you are correct in

Jeteye, you are correct in your example that exchange and division of labor makes a society richer, raising all boats. The underlying increase in wealth isn't the money, however, because in your example the farmer and mechanic could have completed their simple transactions with barter and gotten the same benefit. It's the ability for people to specialize (division of labor) and exchange freely with each other that make society as a whole better off.

The Keynesians make the mistake of crediting the increase in wealth to the act of spending, rather than the act of exchanging, and are misled into thinking that stimulating spending with lots of fake money and big budget deficits can act like economic fertilizer. This is where the Keynesian multiplier comes into play, which is what I thought you were referring to. All the fake money does is divert activity and investment into areas that are not supported by fundamental consumer demand. This is the unsustainable boom phase of the business cycle. Eventually the malinvestments are revealed, have to be liquidated, and the economy heads into the bust phase of the business cycle. The capital has to be written off and reallocated, the workers employed in the unsustainable portion of the economy have to find work in the sustainable part, and things just generally have to be unwound.

Additional fake money doesn't fix anything, it just further obscures true consumer demand making the inevitable bust more painful. A doubling of the money supply has given us the current crop of tiny "green shoots", a pretty pathetic showing for such a large expenditure. As tiny as it is, it is not sustainable and the worst is yet to come.

Aggregate spending is just all of the spending decisions of all the consumers lumped together. If an individual decides to hang on to his used car for one more year, he is making the correct decision for himself and this cannot be characterized as wrong, or needing correction, in any way. It's up to producers to adapt to consumer demand, including consumers expressing a preference for money rather than goods.

In a normal economy where the counterfeiters are thrown in jail rather than given well paying jobs at the Fed, a lack of consumer spending means an increase in consumer saving. The increase in the supply of savings results in the interest rate coming down, since there is more money competing for the interest the banks can pay. The fall in interest rates encourages capital investment, since projects that were not profitable at the old higher rate become profitable at the new lower rate. Simultaneously the lower rate makes savings relatively less attractive to consumers, encouraging them to spend their savings purchasing the new goods and services the capital expansion is capable of producing. No systemic booms or busts, just economic growth that adapts to consumer desires.

regards,
--steve

jeteye's picture

Money SHOULD make commerce

Money SHOULD make commerce less frictionless, but alas, that is not so! I totally agree with you. Wealth is caused by the exchange of goods and services, not by the creation of money! Actually, pouring money into the economy may stimulate it, but long term it makes us all a little poorer!

NY2TX's picture

The "act of exchanging" is

The "act of exchanging" is another way of saying "multiplier effect," yes?

How much real growth came from the "clunkers" program versus having spent that money in helping small businesses? technology developers?

If small business is the engine of the economy, then feeding that engine is important. Without debating the "how," saving GM is important for a number of reasons; jobs retained, manufacturing base; supplier jobs and etc.

I'm over simplifying.

jeteye's picture

yes, I believe so. Glad

yes, I believe so. Glad this has generated a lot of interest!

I am not too sure if saving GM is a good thing long term, especially if the management does nothing to change.

sravet's picture

It can never be a good thing

It can never be a good thing to have the government bail out a failing company. In that case you are substituting the opinion of a government bureaucrat for the true will of the consumer. It may turn out OK, if GM is able to reform, free themselves from the entanglement of government ownership, and be able to succeed on their own terms in the market. Even if it does turn out OK, it was still an inefficient procedure. Even if GM fails, the factories and workers don't disappear. They are simply bought out of bankruptcy by someone else and put to work in some other way, perhaps making cars for someone else or perhaps making something else altogether.

Of course the more likely scenario is that GM remains a government owned enterprise producing cars that the government wants us to buy -- goodbye Suburban and Corvette. The vehicles will be market failures, kept alive only with the "infinite" monetary resources of the government.

regards,
--steve

NY2TX's picture

More/big gov't isn't good.

More/big gov't isn't good. "Clunkers" created a jump in GPD...will it last?

jeteye's picture

I concur totally.

I concur totally.

jeteye's picture

It is like the perception of

It is like the perception of a plane going down with 250 people in it and the 30,000+ people who die in car crashes in a given year. Dying one at a time, even though in greater numbers is just not as shocking as when 250 people die at once. Same is true for "big business." Losing 25,000 jobs all at one time is just more shocking than 10 people being laid off from 5,000 small companies. Just easier to digest I guess?

Linas's picture

> "Even if GM fails, the

> "Even if GM fails, the factories and workers don't disappear. They are simply bought out of bankruptcy by someone else and put to work in some other way..."

Err, no. Just look at the city of Detroit. There are vast tracts of factories and warehouses, unused and mouldering, for the last 20-30 years. A bankrupt company is like that broken shop window -- sure, maybe some entrepreneur/"turnaround expert" can find some smaller pieces that can be cut down and used again, but much/most is unrecoverable waste. When a factory is shuttered, it does, defacto, disappear. The skill-sets of the workers, their knowledge of operating certain machines efficiently, performing certain jobs efficiently, are very definitely lost, and lost forever. Bankruptcy is not zero-sum, no more than a broken window is.

jeteye's picture

I saw with the steel

I saw with the steel industry in the US, the factories that made it were smaller, more nimble, and focused on specialty steel as opposed to "massed" produced steel (bigger margins and moving up the food chain). Problem with Detroit it that the smaller more nimble companies are in the US but now owned by foreign companies. Sad but true.

sravet's picture

As Jeteye originally

As Jeteye originally proposed it, yes multiplier is the same as frequent exchange. "Multiplier" is a term that is generally used with a different meaning in Keynesian economics, which is currently mainstream. I thought Jeteye was referring to Keynes's multiplier, which is refuted by Bastiat's broken window fallacy. I think Jeteye and I are in basic agreement.

You are correct that the clunker program won't have any long term benefit. Speaking practically, many of those cars will end up being reposessed because the people who, on margin, couldn't afford the cars before still probably can't, and will run into trouble making payments before the loan is paid off.

Speaking on principle no-one can tell beforehand if the market needs more new cars or more new businesses. Entrepreneurs can only make an educated guess, and see over time if they were correct or not.

regards,
--steve

NY2TX's picture

I was taught Keynsian eco.

I was taught Keynsian eco. (showing my age). That said, manufacturing jobs in general are worth 3.x times their initial value in add'l economic development. While saving GM via a gov't bailout versus a bankruptcy and recovery isn't my point. The jobs in the supplier network and supply chain are important.

sravet's picture

Keynes is unfortunately

Keynes is unfortunately alive and well today. I listen to the "econtalk" podcast every week and he actually had an academic economist, someone who is teaching the subject to others, who said that paying people to dig holes, and then paying other people to follow behind and fill them in, is an adequate (although not optimal) way of getting the economy out of recession.

The jobs in the supply chains are important, but only if GM can produce economically viable cars. If they can't then not only is GM living on taxpayer handouts, so are all the supply chain and other associated workers, making all of them a drain on productivity. To put another way, if GM makes it on it's own or is reorganized through bankruptcy then it's 3x good, but if they go on government life support then it's 3x bad.

regards,
--steve

NY2TX's picture

I think Keynes died

I think Keynes died (1940's). Still, I tend to agree with you that "pass along" economic development value depends on the product's value.

However, when Grumman imploded in the early 1990's the effect on the Long Island economy due to loss of secondary, tertiary and beyond jobs was undeniable.

I do agree with this: "...if GM makes it on it's own or is reorganized through bankruptcy then it's 3x good, but if they go on government life support then it's 3x bad."

jeteye's picture

Again, excellent commentary

Again, excellent commentary for all! Thanks. What a fascinating thread this turned out to be. Glad some much though is going into this. Hey, WE should be running the country!

jeteye's picture

See my earlier reply on

See my earlier reply on magnitude effects of layoffs.

jeteye's picture

Were they using paper money

Were they using paper money back then (wink, wink).

jeteye's picture

Thanks steve, yes we are in

Thanks steve, yes we are in agreement BTW.