Accepting career advice for the Entry Level

Greetings,
My name is Cody Conner and I just recently moved to Austin about a month ago after graduating from the University of Dayton. I am not having much luck getting any call backs and am getting quite tired of sitting at my computer sending out emails and resumes.
I am looking for any advice on how to get out and network and get away from my computer screen and find a career. I am looking for an entry level position, though I do have some great experience from two different co-ops.
Any advice greatly appreciated!
Sincerely,
Cody
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First, don't feel bad... We
First, don't feel bad... We are currently in the worst job market, especially for IT, that most of us have seen in our lifetimes. Even many extensively experienced IT pros are having a lot of trouble finding suitable employment right now. While Texas isn't suffering from this recession as bad as some places, it isn't as rosy here for quality jobs as the news media likes to portray it. The job market for low-end unskilled employment here seems fairly robust, but when it comes to the IT job market there are just too few opportunities for the number of available candidates.
One problem right now is that there is no such thing as an "entry level" job anymore -- only entry level salaries. Most employers are only hiring people with several years of experience right now because there is such a huge glut of talent right now that they can get well educated, highly skilled and experienced people for what were entry level rates a few years ago. Because of that employers have become extremely picky and have piled on additional requirements and are often holding out for the "perfect" candidate at a bargain price. Be glad at least that you aren't "over the hill" -- it is worse for those who are 35+ because employers don't want to pay for people who are too highly experienced.
You don't say specifically what your degree is in or what kind of experience you got while doing your co-ops. You are luckier than the average recent grad in that you at least have that experience. The local schools, especially UT turn out thousands of new techie grads every semester, and those that don't have any non-academic experience on their resume are really facing an uphill battle right now. Unfortunately since your degree is not from a local school you may face a little bit of discrimination from some employers who prefer to hire locals or at least people from schools they are familiar with (better still if its the hiring manager's alma-mater). Moving without working to build up your network in the new location first or even better already having a job lined up first is always risky but since you're already here you need to work much harder at networking. I don't know what brings you to Austin... but you arrived at a pretty bad time as most of the large employers who usually hire recent grads have gone through layoffs and hiring freezes lately. Even in good times Austin's IT job market is extremely competitive. It is often said that "Austin has the best educated waiters in the world" -- and its true. It is not uncommon to chat up a bartender or waiter and find out they've got a Masters or PhD.
All that said, you've come to the right place (this site)... And while I've said a lot of "bad news" things -- its best to be aware of the obstacles you are up against. Anyway, you've just got to be persistent and leave no stone unturned. Attend as many of the local networking events as possible (they are usually announced here). One suggestion for getting out of the house, and getting your name out there is to try volunteering. It won't bring any $$$ in, but hopefully you've got at least 6 months to a year's worth of savings to fall back on until you can find a job. If not you might want to consider what "survival" job (retail, food service, etc) you can get in order to make ends meet in the mean time. It is best to have the basics taken care of so you can be without those worries while you are looking for a better long term job.
Thanks! Even though it was
Thanks! Even though it was rather eye opening, it did help.
My Bachelors degree is in Electronics Engineering Technology.
Any ideas on good places to volunteer or network?
Cody
I'm not sure what that
I'm not sure what that degree actually qualifies someone to do. Maybe I should ask what jobs would you be targeting in your job search? Search around and see what non-profits, religious, government or educational institutions who use volunteers might be needing the kinds of services you are qualified to do. Then search their web sites and search for people affiliated with those entities through google, pipl and networking sites like here and on LinkedIn, Facebook, MySpace, etc. See if you can get linked to those people and/or find out who to talk to about volunteering. As for networking events, the ones organized by door64 (Matt) are a great place to start, and there are also a lot of other groups who announce their meetings and events here. Another good way to meet people is to join and attend user group meetings for technologies you are interested in or that are popular for use with jobs you are interested in. There are a lot of active user groups around here, and not only are they a good way to network, they often have free educational opportunities and may know of organizations that are looking for volunteers.
Hey Cody, SJ is right, as
Hey Cody,
SJ is right, as networking events and user group meetings are an excellent way to get your foot in the door.
Also, I almost hate to throw this out there, but you might consider getting an advanced degree. Your EET degree along with graduate-level education can be an asset, and allows you to "hibernate" a bit longer while doing something useful during the recession. Maybe it's a Masters, or maybe it's additional certifications in the area(s) in which you're already pursuing.
You might also begin finding local technology entrepreneurs (in your area, or in Austin) and see how you can help them with their businesses. It may not be paid (or pay much), but getting in on the ground floor to help start-ups be successful can be rewarding for your resume and potentially your wallet. It's much better than doing nothing.
Finally, check out this blog post by Seth Godin -- "Don't try to get a job." It sounds like a bit of simplistic advice, but it's probably more of an encouragement to start something on your own and learn from it. I can speak personally that starting door64 has been a HUGE learning experience from many angles, and that experience is beneficial in a variety of contexts (lessons you can't learn in the classroom).
I agree completely with Matt
I agree completely with Matt that if you've got the resources to go back to school, you might seriously consider getting an advanced degree or even a 2nd Bachelors. "Hibernating" another 2-3 years may not be a bad plan if you can swing it, possibily the worst of this recession will have passed by then. One thing to consider if you seek additional education is whether to continue on a pure technical pursuit or whether to go for a business (like an MBA) or other advanced degree in another field where you could apply your technical knowledge. Maybe now is the time to switch gears to something else you are interested in.
I say this because I think in the future every field is going to require computer and engineering skills and because everyone will be expected to have them, the demand for pure technical grads will be greatly diminished. More and more I believe hardware and software will become commoditized and their development and maintenance will become more and more automated to the point where what little human intervention is needed will be done as either more of a clerical function or done as part of the responsibilities of each person rather than by dedicated people, let alone teams of specialists as we have now. Additionally a lot of the work of developing and maintaining software and hardware will be done offshore or remotely so what few opportunities will exist won't be here.
What this is going to mean is that people in the US who have skills beyond just computers or engineering will be far more employable in the future than those who are strictly techies. In the future people who are strictly techies may be relegated to the bottom of the food chain like what help desk, tech support or pc techs are now.
Cody, I'm an Electrical and
Cody,
I'm an Electrical and Computer Engineer and I kind of have been in the same boat. First and foremost I have learned is not to be discouraged and keep trying.
Additionally, have your Resume checked out by someone more knowledgeable - your Resume is the first thing the recruiters see and a lot of the recruiters are not so tech savvy. They just look for keywords - so having the right words and easy to read/understand Resume matters.
Hope that helps. Goodluck!
Cody, You made a good
Cody,
You made a good start, ask for advice from others. Here are a few network tips.
1. Attend the Door 64 coffee mixers on every other Weds. , great way to meet others.
2. Attend a few Launch Pad meetings and maybe become active in one or more sub groups.
3. Become a member of Workforce Solutions “Work in Texas” you do not have to be laid off to take advantage of their programs.
4. Attend as many tech shows / events as you can. These are not the places to pass out resumes but a great place to collect business cards and talk to people.
5. Subscribe to some of the free industry magazines for your industry, Eweek is an IT mag, keeps you up to date on current trends and provides you with a lot of companies advertisements and stories.
6. Consider volunteering at some events to meet people, you will never know who will provide you that lead.
A few things before you start:
1. Assess your skills, what you can do, what you want to do.
2. Have your resume reviewed by people in your field which, you will meet at the network events and by some of the professional resume reviewers which, is free at Workforce and sometimes at Launch pad. Do not pay money for this service. When you are at the point where one person tells you change an item where another told you to add/change that item. You have a good resume. Everyone has an opinion on resumes so, you will never get a perfect one.
3. Have some business made up with your contact information, and a business title that broadly fits the job your looking for. Vistaprint is pretty cheap for cards.
4. Attitude – Keep positive, positive, positive. Get some exercise every day, ignore the negative nannies. This is a tough job market for everyone. Keep your head up and keep trying you will succeed.
5. Training – Watch out for free courses to add to your skill base. There are always free things on the internet if you search hard enough. And as you meet contacts they may have some training books you can borrow as well.
Good Luck!
Mike
I was in your position last
I was in your position last summer but I had graduated from UT-Austin with an electrical engineering degree so I had the advantage of being local. Many people have already posted good advice for you that I also used in my job search. I attended a lot of door64 and other networking events. I started volunteering with an organization that had nothing to do with tech but it forced me to leave the house and interact with lots of people and I got some good job leads from them. Also, I got a part-time job so I could still feel useful and bring in some money.
One thing I have to add is a warning: make sure you have a good idea of what kind of work you want to do and don't automatically take the first offer. When I finally got a job offer, I was so desperate for a tech-related job that I just jumped on the opportunity. It was for a short-term contract opportunity in software development and it seemed to be ok so I took it. I really didn't think it through and when I completed the contract, I realized that this was not what I wanted to do and I couldn't stand the work. Not only that, but the people I worked with did not value my work at all and just kept putting me down. It was good experience but now that I am unemployed again and have had a hard time finding another job, I've decided to take some classes at the community college to learn some other technical and other non-technical skills while still on the job search.
I hope you can learn from my mistake and good luck with the job search!