Quality of Tech Networking in Austin - poor?

Quality of Networking in Austin.
Austin seems to have a lot of networking events catered towards technology. I've been to several of them over time. I wanted to share my observations and I would really like to get some input feedback or just get some discussion going.
At a door64 networking event or the Austin High Tech Happy hour I tend to meet three types of people (in many cases the same people over and over):
1) People out of a job, mostly middle aged people laid off from one of the big name tech companies in Austin or people(much smaller %)passively looking to jump ship .
2) People looking to peddle something, promote something, sometimes completely unrelated to tech
3) IT Recruiters
So far I have yet to meet:
1) A single hiring manger, director or VP of companies like Dell, FSL, AMD, Samsung, LSI, SiLabs, 3M and the likes...at these events.
2) A single tech investor or angel investor or a venture capitalist
3) Entrepreneurs
Austin does seem to be attracting a lot of SW and IT related jobs. Instead of Austin attracting major growth in high tech areas like semiconductor R&D or even product centric systems design companies, Austin seems to be the hotbed for IT and Software "as a service" start-ups. It would be nice to see more non-service, ad-revenue independent, product centric companies and start-ups here. For example medical products companies developing the next generation ultra potable diagnosis machines, or R&D for solar technology, battery technology, biotechnology, low cost materials R&D, next generation technology for automotive and other transportation applications. Etc.
I question the value of networking in these events, other than good socializing. Even the sponsors at these events seem to be lukewarm in their approach. They might place one or two people and that's still worth it for them, because recruiter fees can be a bundle, but sometimes they are not even present. I don't think I met a single person from Samsung at their sponsored event.
The issue here isn't the expectation of instant gratification. It's more that 'REAL' networking continues to happen in small groups of like minded people in their own private circles. These events are not targeted enough to actually produce meaningful networking experiences or even help you crack the surface of the movers and shakers of the Tech community in Austin.
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Thank you for your post.
Thank you for your post. Let me address the types of people you mentioned:
1) People out of a job, mostly middle aged people laid off from one of the big name tech companies in Austin or people(much smaller %)passively looking to jump ship.
Well, the current demographic of Door64 consists of "technology professionals". We have members of all ages, and our attendees reflect that. But as in any normal distribution, there's going to be an average, and the profile you described sounds like you've nailed the average techie.
In terms of employment status in this current climate, you're going to find individuals who are either out of work, or working (though possibly looking). That criteria pretty much covers every person, so we shouldn't be surprised.
2) People looking to peddle something, promote something, sometimes completely unrelated to tech
I do my best to restrict Door64 to only technology professionals. I actively try to keep out people who would solicit the group (including, but not limited to financial planners, Realtors, etc.) If they are attending Door64 events and "peddling", find me and I'll take care of it.
3) IT Recruiters
Especially considering the employment climate, recruiters are welcome because they are searching for tech hiring candidates. If a member finds a job through Door64 or a company finds who they're looking for, then I get really excited!
The VP's, entrepreneurs, and VC's are out there; I've met them at these events (both Door64 and ATHH). FYI, from my observations, you may not see VC's or Angels inscribing that information right on their name tag; flaunting their investor status can sometimes lead to skewed conversations.
In terms of SaaS companies, you're seeing those in Austin because frankly that's where the money's at for relatively low startup cost. Product companies like the ones you mentioned take lots of up front capital investment. They are around (I've seen them present at the 2010 Door64 Tech Fair, for example); however, because the SaaS model is so potentially lucrative with little upfront investment, many people….including local folks who have been laid off from those "product companies" are giving entrepreneurship a go. So I think many of the SaaS startups are starting here in Austin, whereas product companies may move here.
The Door64 event sponsors bring out quite a number of people. For the the past few events, there were about 5-10 people from each sponsoring company each. It's definitely to their benefit to bring as many representatives from their company as possible, and I encourage them to do so.
Networking in smaller groups is definitely different than in larger groups. I wouldn't say better or worse: just different. The Door64 calendar lists lots of user group-type meetings that allow you to foster connections with other individuals over some specific topic of interest. They are of tremendous value, and as such the Door64 calendar exists to promote their meetings in the local tech community.
Let me end with this (not directed at you, but in general): Networking is about giving before you get. Going to a networking event with an intent to "get something immediately in return" is the wrong reason to attend, and you'll probably be disappointed. Instead, I advise to help others while there (e.g. building relationships, giving feedback on their ideas, connecting people to others you know, etc.). If everyone behaves in this fashion, then networking will be a rewarding experience for everyone who attends, no matter who they speak with.
I hesitate to divert this
I hesitate to divert this discussion in an unintended direction, but your comment raised a question with me, and not a new one.
By career I'm an engineering manager and project manager, but, for a variety of reasons, for the past few years I've been doing something completely unrelated. I opened my own life and health insurance agency, Straight Talk Insurance of Texas. I do NOT want to peddle my wares on door64.
On the other hand, I know that unemployed and self-employed folks often struggle with health insurance issues. For some time I've tried to figure out how to offer to help, not in a sales capacity, but strictly as a knowledge resource for anyone confused by the whole health insurance maze.
You wrote:
I do my best to restrict Door64 to only technology professionals. I actively try to keep out people who would solicit the group (including, but not limited to financial planners, Realtors, etc.) If they are attending Door64 events and "peddling", find me and I'll take care of it.
I'd like to know whether there even IS a way to offer to help without violating your (and my) wish that door64 stay non-commercial. Perhaps there might be a way to answer health insurance questions here on the door64 website, where everyone can see them. I can't afford to devote hours to duplicated individual advice that is intentionally expected to be nonprofit, so I'd prefer to answer questions of general interest and answer them just once where all can see.
Do you see any value in this?
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Jerry Dunham
Ensure rants
A few comments while I'm
A few comments while I'm waiting on my cuppa:
First, @enrcomm: What was the outcome of your search here on Door64, Dec2009-Jan2010, for "RF system engineers, communications and protocol stack experts" ? It seemed that you were forming a venture - is that underway? If so, do you need a training department? (I've built two departments from the ground up, provide full-spectrum instructional design, and speak fluent OSI, etc.) If your venture didn't launch, would you care to share current/last status, and any lessons learned?
Second, regarding the happy hours: My experience hasn't been quite the same as yours in the half-dozen or so happy hrs I've attended over the last couple of years. I've met many more employed folks than unemployed ones, and seen about an equal distribution of ages among the latter. I've been hustled, err, "vended to" just once as an outcome of a Door64 happy hr, and that came several weeks after the event itself, from someone whose own situation had apparently changed. Full disclosure: I'm a middle-aged, currently employed professional. As a contractor, I have to be looking for employment months ahead of projected contract end, and more generally, stay ahead of new trends and technologies. Door64 has helped me on both counts, both through this board and in the happy hour events.
Third, regarding networking, paying forward rarely feeds the bulldog *today*, and is hard to quantify ROI, but it is indeed invaluable. One anecdote: At one happy hour, I met a recruiter at an Austin fab plant who continues to recruit applicants by posting on this board. She's also a community-outreaching source for professional activities and organizations. Through her at that same event, I met a just-graduated, job-seeking EE, who didn't know about ERCOT in Taylor. I steered him to ERCOT, and I hope he made the cut. So was all that worth the ten bucks' parking charge for the happy hour? I think so, especially considering that I fed my belly with free food and my mind with good conversation.
I hope the value improves for you!
Wayne C. Vermillion
Instructional Designer/Project Manager
Even though things are not
Even though things are not as bleak as they were a year or two ago we are still in the middle of the worst recession and job market that most of us have seen in our lifetimes. It is not too surprising that there are a lot of job seekers who have time to attend daytime events. IT recruiters are going through tough times also because when the job market suffers they do worse than anyone.
I think the people you are looking for... hiring managers, entrepreneurs, angel investors, etc., are either just too busy or already have too many people trying to find them. It is hard to find people with money to invest even during good times. I'm in the would-be-entrepreneur category, but I am still sitting on my ideas waiting for the right time because I lack the funding to get anything off the ground. Nothing I've got is anything you'd likely be interested in though as all my startup ideas are either in software or completely non-tech.
Todays unemployed folks are
Todays unemployed folks are tomorrows' hiring managers - because eventually they will get employed, and with luck will need more people for their projects.
It is very much the employer's market, so people who need a job tend to be a lot more active and loud, than those who need people. It's not the quality of networking events, it's the state of the economy in Austin (and many other places).
And economy has to be not just great, but on the bubble for the investors to start announcing that they've got money to throw around to random people who show up to open networking events. Door64 and other open networking spots is where people meet and build relationships, money talks come later in the cycle and at different venues.
Jane Prusakova
Senior Consultant at Improving Enterprises
LinkedIn Info
A little late joining this
A little late joining this thread but just wanted to share some of my thoughts and experience as a middle aged contractor currently with IBM.
I have had periods of unemployment and have attended job fairs and also networking groups and there is a big difference. I have not had the opportunity to attend a Dors64 happy hour yet but I will be there as soon as I am in Austin when one is scheduled.
Networking is probably more important for what you give, either in or out of work does not matter when networks have been established. While I was “between contracts” I attended such events and although I never gained a job from them I did put plenty of job seekers in touch with openings I was aware of, people I knew who might be hiring and great recruiters I have worked with in the past. This in turn led to jobs for many of them plus great networking contacts for me.
I am new in the Austin area as far as work is concerned although I have been married to a local for over 10 years. My professional career has been focused in Denver and UK in Assembler and Mainframe. During my last hiatus from work I focused on redesigning myself back to my roots of the late 90’s when I was a web developer and web master. I have been retraining in ASP/ADO .NET, C#, SQL, MS SQL Server and MS Visual Studio 2008, etc and hoping to complete my MSITP certification soon. Why am I mentioning this? Well this for me lead to greater networking opportunities. Just this week I have been approached about an opportunity from a friend I meet while studying.
I get frequently head hunted; have contacts in many IT areas around the world.
Am I a CEO, Director or hiring manager? No, I am a simple IT techie grunt who has a wealth of contacts.
So what would you think of me if I had appeared last year as an unemployed middle aged techie?
Btw, seriously looking for work in the Austin area.